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uh my name is Jose Padilla

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I was born on November 24th 1936.

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I was 90 years old at that time

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um

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we were looking for a cow that was going

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to calves and did you take your glasses

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off or do you need them no do you need

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them no

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I can see too good but

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we found we were

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dodging the rain a heavy storm

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when a thunder real thunder came up and

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I told Raymond you know it must be

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another test from another bomb

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and he says Noel he says he doesn't look

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like that so we got from underneath the

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ledge of the rocks and uh he says look

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at the smoke coming out from that

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so we got on the horses and shot down

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here down there Arroyo

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we stopped over here take the horses

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over to Mesquite

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start walking up up the hill

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and that's when we see more smoke coming

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out

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and went over to the ledge of the Hill

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there and

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seeing this big huge

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something

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that object

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and uh it happened you know I had my

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I threw a hole of it I sit in uh that

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these three creatures were run sashaying

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back and forth

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describe to me what the what the object

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looked like and roughly how far away the

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color the shape everything okay the that

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sheep or

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crap whatever you want to call it

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was about

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I see in machine on footsteps it might

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have been about uh 30 feet long on an

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oval shape and uh almost uh

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uh higher than uh the rafters on the

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house now the renters in the house are

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usually 15 feet

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shape okay

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uh the colors was uh like a grayish

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so you're looking at this object what

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are you thinking

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taking what what is it you know

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and uh

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afterwards you know when we

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've seen these creatures running back

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and forth uh

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I wasn't scared Remy was scared

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he wanted to get out of it and I throw

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him ellipsis

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you know people are running back and

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forth you know they're they're squeaking

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like uh like a like a a rabbit

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and I started thinking well they are

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there animals or what yeah

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but uh after that you know I says

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which uh I was pretty sure that they

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were injured

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that's what they were running back and

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forth squillion in it and then he says

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no no no he says we better get home

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all right yes afterwards

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he says you go ahead and go he says I'm

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going to go in the horse and take off

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that's what now then he started crying

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and uh

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we just got back on the horses and took

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off

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went home told my dad about it and he

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says uh we'll wait a couple of days

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we'll go and check it out did your dad

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believe you

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um at first he didn't

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but then when I told him you know we we

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seen that you know then he started

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realizing you know that uh

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we've seen something that uh so he took

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off our work that day

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and this policeman came over you know

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and

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gave him a ride over here

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and we got on our pickup truck Remy and

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I we drove when we drove down where that

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turn was right there that was real

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dangerous we couldn't see nothing

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the look of someone had pushed rubbish

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and all it on top of it you know where

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you couldn't see it then the sun started

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shining up that's when we started

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looking at that the big object because

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it's living there but someone has swept

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the ground

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with something and clean up

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everything that was there

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that was there when we left it

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the day and a half

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can you describe to me in in better

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detail

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how you saw these kids as you described

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them as children

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gash I guess it was an opening in the in

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the there was a

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um a guess

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on that ship

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that was ripped like um for example a uh

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a panel yeah that was ripped off grab a

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rock presents if you could show me

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if it was something like this just show

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me you know describe to me show me with

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your hands where where the how the

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object was on the ground can you put it

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down to the ground how what angle you

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saw that where the gas was all that can

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you show me the object Plus

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sitting that way

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the gas was on this side right here

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he's describe to me what they look like

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color their skin their eyes uh they were

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uh ball handed

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um slang eyes teardrop eyes

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uh no ears unless they had had a a

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coating of something on it and I noticed

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that their shoulders were kind of narrow

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but had long arms and what I surprised

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me that they had four fingers

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perfect only four fingers

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probably longer than what a monkey would

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have

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were they naked

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um they didn't have they didn't show no

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no sign of a genitals or anything just

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like a it seemed like it was like a a

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tight uniform or that was the ski their

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the nose you know you can see no no no

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holes for the notion where they could

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breathe

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the mouth was an open

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real round kind of round

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okay and then and then what were they

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doing like I said that they were just um

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running back and forth you know like uh

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trying to hold each other

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uh like uh for example if uh they were

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lacking up oxygen and trying to you know

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what did you think to yourself when you

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saw them what were you thinking

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uh I wasn't thinking I was just

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surprised you know that it's a shock

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the surprise to see anything like that

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that

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we had never seen anything on our lives

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uh adding around pictures pictures never

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showed anything of a UFOs or anything

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and to me when they stand up and they

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were going back and forth because when I

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looked it up without looking into the

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binoculars they they remind me of a a

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fire ant standing up

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the way that their head was you know in

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what do you say to someone who

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uh well I would ask him you know if uh

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and if they weren't you know I was

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okay so so can you just maybe just talk

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a little bit about what you saw

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the size of the craft where the position

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was that he landed right in here the

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position was that there was a little

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hump right there where he was leaning on

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his side

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and you could see that the hole was from

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uh we were behind that mountain right

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there

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looking up this way and the hole was

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facing up I'd say the West and that's

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where I uh uh we've seen this little

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creatures running back and forth you

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know

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when it crashed from that mountain right

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there yeah right behind there the brush

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was pretty pretty hybrid

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and there used to be a cactus trees we

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changed you know in the Years you know

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of what the crabs look like its position

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what you were thinking all that uh it

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was

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know a lot of smoke coming out of the

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ground

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and uh that's what we see from there the

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creatures you know that they never got

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out

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they were just such a shame that through

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for that whole bus

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on the object

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and we stayed here for quite a while

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after that you know I was gonna tell

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Remy I told Remy I wanted

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good

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noises we better get home at that time

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you know of course he was getting his

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name in the afternoon and the sun was

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going down

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now can you can you take these guys I

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was in a film from I'm gonna film from

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here and just walk them around and show

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them exactly where the craft was how is

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this just describe every detail you

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possibly can and I'm just gonna film you

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guys okay you guys just talk to each

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but you're stabbing on my thumb

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yeah what is this because nothing grows

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no vegetation girls like out here so you

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notice out here how it is green nothing

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grows in here even if you plant it it's

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the size of the craft yes it was 30 30

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feet uh in a normal shape

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well it it rested right here

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okay he rested right here because when

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they uh when they build that uh L frame

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the the truck was parked right in here

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they loaded on yeah and uh they took it

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out from here so the L frame was over

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there yeah it was right in here the

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elephant okay now where did the the

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soldiers put the pieces

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cleaning up okay there was a crevice

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down in here

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that lead into that

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a bunch of dirt right there and I I'll

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show you how the other side is where

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they uh push

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they pushed all that down

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because this wasn't there before the

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crevice was right down over here like

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that and they were brushing everything

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inside it's possible that there's pieces

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on this other side

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when that bulldozer came over and uh

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cleaned up over here and built this Dam

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here they uh they uh

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it's possible that some of them pieces

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came up up the ground

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a bulldozer came over here they dumped

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some of that out and the crevice that

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was right there where they preached the

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pieces that it's possible because they

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pushed it up here

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could they have done it on purpose to

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bury the pieces uh no no that that was

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to build a demo here for the water for

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but they might be some pieces laying

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where we're standing right now

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the berm behind you wasn't there no

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no that was a um uh it was flat

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it was flat afterwards my cousin built

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this with a bulldozer so that he could

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build a dam

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to collect water for the cattle can we

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just talk talk a little bit about about

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the about the craft and about the

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occupants

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while we were there watching him

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uh the occupants that were in there like

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I said before you know they they seemed

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to me like they were hurt

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and like I said I tried to convince

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Iranian you know we could come on and

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help them because I know that they were

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injured but Remy

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didn't want to do that so

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we just went home when we came back a

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couple of days later

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that craft was still there

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but all the remaining about rubbish and

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all that wasn't uh was it looked at

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someone had raked everything and cleaned

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up I don't know where the soldiers came

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before that before we got here and clean

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up or someone had to accommodate

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okay now when uh my dad and the

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policeman went in the crab

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they came out of there you know like

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like a different person I don't know

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then he the policeman decided you know

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that we should go you know and have them

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come over you know and take care of it

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that's when they uh decided to bring

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that trailer and they built up that

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A-frame for it for that object you know

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to loaded but he said that object sat

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over here since the 18th until the 26th

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it was at 26 about uh or later than this

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that uh

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we've seen the soldiers get on the Jeep

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where they're all highways I mean the

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old road and they took off and no one

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stood here that's when we decided to

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come down you know and see what was in

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there that's where when I took that part

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off can we go up to where you were

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you're looking at the craft can we walk

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up there

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oh it's a long ways but we can do it I

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okay so you're standing here okay

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we came up this ribena here uh we tied

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our horses Down Below on that Arroyo

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then from there we walked up here

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this was a big big huge Mesquite

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here's where we were looking through the

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binoculars down below where that

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crap

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tell me what you saw

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you seen that the crafter that was a

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smoking burning at the bottom

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and that's where

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we've seen I seen through the binoculars

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that the three creatures were sashaying

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back and forth through the whole

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and tell me to explain once again why we

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have the wind has died down so you came

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show me what's that show them where you

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came from we came from this Ravine out

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here

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on the East

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came out we got off our horses dumped

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Below on the Royal there and tied them

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down to a Mesquite

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from there we walked all the way up here

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came out to where this it used to be a

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big dream excuse here from here so we

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started looking at the object up there

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where where they had landed

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but uh four times bigger

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wow so could that the hole in the truck

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base at the hole in the crack be as big

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as that road truck

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um if you turn the truck upright

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it was a good uh

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probably uh

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eight feet by 15 feet high

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what do The Creatures look like

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can you give me any more description

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there was a grayish color

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light grayish color uh they're ironford

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long and I I noticed that they had four

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fingers only on his hand

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they didn't have no uh no ears unless

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they're wearing a a tight uniform

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what about their eyes

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their eye for uh teardrop big eyes

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teardrop shape scary